...I mean it when I say she'd never done it before. I never knew until then that an Iris's powers could work like that. [ hurting someone else like that... ] Iris - her son. He never used his that way.

[ he shrugs? ]

I don't know a ton about how the world is outside of the Tower - just what they told us when we were growing up, or what Ven and Ms. Needle have said since I started working with them. If what they said is true, at least some people outside know what Madam's been doing. Selling demiflora parts and stuff, not - hurting Iris like that. I'm not sure how many people even knew he existed before recently.